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This is a chatlog of June 28, 2013. See category:chatlog of 2013 for chatlogs in the same year, and category:chatlog of 2013/06 for chatlogs in the same month.

[01:34] Bly (bly1234): *It's the 17th, right?*
[01:34] Kriggles (kris159): *it's the 17th*
[01:34] Kriggles (kris159): *Bly arrives from his 7-day journey*
[01:34] Kriggles (kris159): *even though meetings are about 15 days apart, leaving him a single day on BlyDonia to administrate*
[01:35] Bly (bly1234): (And I keep getting "elected". Go figure)
[01:35] Kriggles (kris159): (Well, I guess issues pile up. They only take like 2 minutes to address each one anyway)
[01:35] Bly (bly1234): (The Excalibur has the latest in engine design)
[01:35] Bly (bly1234): (It takes one day)
[01:35] Bly (bly1234): (Fuck your science shit)
[01:36] Kriggles (kris159): (1 light year per minute! Let me get my ruler out!) 
[01:37] Kriggles (kris159): (514 pixels)
[01:37] Kriggles (kris159): (1 pixel = 35 lightyears)
[01:37] Kriggles (kris159): (18935 lightyears)
[01:37] Kriggles (kris159): (1 lightyear per minute)
[01:38] Kriggles (kris159): (thus, 315 hours)
[01:38] Kriggles (kris159): (13 days)
[01:38] Pringles Fringles (padawanfighter): (RIP anything that was in the way of the Excalibur)
[01:38] Bly (bly1234): (Kris)
[01:38] Bly (bly1234): (You don't know how fast our hyperspace motivator is)
[01:38] Kriggles (kris159): (Motivator?)
[01:39] Bly (bly1234): (Yes)

[01:39] Bly (bly1234): (He's a crewman the stands next to the warpcore and motivates it)
[01:39] Kriggles (kris159): (Does it provide some kind of moral support int he hopes of ...)
[01:39] Kriggles (kris159): (Ah0
[01:39] Kriggles (kris159): (Surely, the speed of your motivator does not amtter as much as his efficiency)
[01:40] Kriggles (kris159): (I don't want someone spouting stuff at me every 2 seconds. I want it to be substiantial)
[01:40] Bly (bly1234): (You don't know how the warp core operates)
[01:40] Kriggles (kris159): (You don't know how overpowered 1 lightyear per minute is)
[01:41] Bly (bly1234): (Hey)
[01:41] Bly (bly1234): (Do I look like an NPC?)

[01:41] Kriggles (kris159): (That whole sentence was no)
[01:43] Bly (bly1234): (Rules that apply to the NPC
[01:43] Bly (bly1234): 's do not apply to us)
[01:44] Kriggles (kris159): (Are we seriously arguing, or are you joking?)
[01:44] Bly (bly1234): (I'm joking)
[01:44] Kriggles (kris159): (Okay)
[01:44] Bly (bly1234): (That's just a stupid thing to say)
[01:44] Pringles Fringles (padawanfighter): (Maybe the Excalibur broke down mid-journey.)
[01:44] Pringles Fringles (padawanfighter): (trololo)
[01:44] Kriggles (kris159): (I'm just waiting for 2019 when you get a permanent ambassador)
[01:44] Bly (bly1234): (The Excalibur does not "Break down")
[01:44] Bly (bly1234): (2019?)
[01:45] Kriggles (kris159): (Is that too early for you?)
[01:45] Pringles Fringles (padawanfighter): (Not with that attitude!)
[01:45] Bly (bly1234): (I'm not Naga. I'm waiting until my Chair Term is oveR)
[01:45] Pringles Fringles (padawanfighter): (Engineering asploded!)
[01:45] Kriggles (kris159): ("I'm not Naga, I'm not waiting for 1.8*")
[01:45] Bly (bly1234): (Kris got it.)
[01:46] Bly (bly1234): (ANYWAY)
[01:47] Bly (bly1234): *After three days of travel, the Excalibur arrives over Alislore)
[01:47] Bly (bly1234): **
[01:48] Bly (bly1234): *a small shuttle is dispatched from the Executive Hanger Bay*
[01:48] Bly (bly1234): *exits said shuttle at the Capita Council Building*
[01:49] Bly (bly1234): *aside* God, I hate this planet.
[01:49] Bly (bly1234): Alislore Guard: This isn't a play. You just asided that to me.
[01:49] Bly (bly1234): Oh.
[01:49] Bly (bly1234): *enters the meeting room EARLY and sits down*
[01:49] Kriggles (kris159): Bly: I'd just rather everything revolve around me.
[01:50] Bly (bly1234): (Kris is getting it!)
[01:52] <nagakrion (Admin) has entered the room>
[01:52] Kriggles (kris159): (Welcome, Administrator)
[01:53] Kriggles (kris159):
[01:54] nagakrion: (new layout!)
[01:54] <Tiggles (dsqtourny) (Admin) has entered the room>
[01:55] Kriggles (kris159): (Ain't it sexy?)
[01:55] Kriggles (kris159): (Ugh I love it)
[01:55] Kriggles (kris159):
[01:55] Bly (bly1234): (Where does it tell you what the resolution is)
[01:55] Kriggles (kris159): Hover over the number.
[01:55] Kriggles (kris159): Press "insert note" to insert a tooltip.
[01:55] nagakrion: (It doesn't! Its a graphical change that reduces usability, Wikia would be proud)
[01:55] nagakrion: (oh)
[01:55] Bly (bly1234): Fancy
[01:56] Tiggles (dsqtourny): (You're not a resolution.)
[01:56] nagakrion: Bly's Officer: sir?
[01:56] Kriggles (kris159): Fi: *waits on bly to call the meeting*
[01:56] Bly (bly1234): Is everyone here?
[01:56] nagakrion: *the Drakonian and Atalanti ambassadors attend via hologram*
[01:56] Bly (bly1234): Hey.
[01:56] Bly (bly1234): You guys are supposed to be present.
[01:57] Bly (bly1234): Whatever. *bangs the gavel*
[01:57] Bly (bly1234): The 66th Session of the Capita Council is now in session.
[01:57] Bly (bly1234): Does anyone have any issues.
[01:57] Kriggles (kris159): *all the other senseible civs have an ambassador permanently stationed at the CC building!*
[01:57] Bly (bly1234): (I do too, asshole, but he's never used)
[01:57] Kriggles (kris159): Fi: You don't start an RPG without a plotline, Bly.
[01:57] nagakrion: *fine, the Atalanti guy is there in person*
[01:57] Kriggles (kris159): Fi: Didn't you read Dr. Tourny's guide to a good role play?
[01:58] Tiggles (dsqtourny): *cleans one of my antennae*
[01:58] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador Fi, I will strangle you.
[01:58] Kriggles (kris159): Fi: Ah.
[01:58] Bly (bly1234): You'd better Ah.
[01:58] Kriggles (kris159): Fi Jin: I have lots of resolutions to propose.
[01:58] Bly (bly1234): Who are you again?
[01:59] Kriggles (kris159): Krane: He hails from Wringon you plenb.
[01:59] Bly (bly1234): I preferred it when you guys didn't have names.
[01:59] Bly (bly1234): And you were just "Wringon"
[01:59] Bly (bly1234): or "Techia"
[01:59] Kriggles (kris159): Krane: Get a grip.
[01:59] Bly (bly1234): Sorry.
[02:00] Bly (bly1234): Let's continue with the meeting. The Honourable Member of the Wringon Republic has the floor.
[02:00] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Some of you may know, as I have consulted you about this, that I am about to propose a large amount of reformations to the council.
[02:00] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *stands up and applauds*
[02:00] Bly (bly1234): Please, sit down Ambassador Tourny.
[02:00] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: For the purposes of suiting our meeting format, I've split the reformations up in to seven sections, each to be voted on independently. 
[02:00] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Give me five minutes. *egins the process*
[02:00] nagakrion: *its a clacking noise because he's a large ant-like insect with an exoskeleton*
[02:01] Kriggles (kris159): *Cue CockchafeR*
[02:01] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (<..<)
[02:01] Kriggles (kris159):
[02:01] Kriggles (kris159): (This windercill sure smells loveleh!)
[02:01] Bly (bly1234): What is your first resolution?
[02:01] nagakrion: (He talks like Wolf!)
[02:02] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: My first resolution regards the format of discourse in meetings.
[02:02] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): -.-
[02:02] Bly (bly1234): Explain.
[02:02] Bly (bly1234): I don't know if you're going to or not, you're not using elipseses.
[02:02] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: I propose the introduction of a presiding officer over meetings, one that does not represent any party or civilization
[02:02] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): "=.=" *
[02:02] Kriggles (kris159): Jni: Shut up.
[02:03] Kriggles (kris159): Jine: I'm going to be using a differnet nickname each time, too.
[02:03] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: No, can't be bothered witht he creativityt.
[02:03] Bly (bly1234): *Security escorts Jni and Jine out of the room*
[02:03] nagakrion: ( *=.=* cockchafer!)
[02:03] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: The sppeaker's responsibilities are as follows ...
[02:03] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Pardon me, was that the creativityt?
[02:04] Bly (bly1234): *whispers to Ambassador Jununka* He's just sour because Wringon never becomes Chair Member.
[02:04] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Opening a meeting, closing a meeting, determining who holds the floor at any time, opening a vote, closing a vote if further discussion is required, announcing a vote's results, maintaining order, asking an ambassador to withdraw unsuitable actions or language, and punishing ambassadors for disorder.
[02:05] Bly (bly1234): *Hzia presses his "I'd like to talk" button*
[02:05] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: The speaker can not vote, and does not represent any party.
[02:05] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Proceed, Mr. Naor.
[02:05] Bly (bly1234): Hzia: Ah have a question.
[02:06] Bly (bly1234): Hzia: Where would we find such a person to be in dis position?
[02:06] nagakrion: (I was watching Breaking Bad and I have the same jacket as Jesse Pinkman)
[02:06] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (<.<)
[02:06] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: I was about to come on to that.
[02:06] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *takes a sip from a glass of water on my desk thing or whatever*
[02:06] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: I propose we elect them from the other residing ambassadors of this station in a similar way that we do chair members: elections.
[02:07] Bly (bly1234): (*quits the Capita Council, runs for the position*)
[02:07] nagakrion: *the Atalanti rep presses his button to talk*
[02:07] Bly (bly1234): Hzia: Ah don't like zee idea.
[02:07] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: *nods at Atalant*
[02:08] Bly (bly1234): (Yes, the Hzian's are now French)
[02:08] nagakrion: *atalanti guy stands* Thank you. If the proposed speaker comes from the ambassadors at the station, wouldn't they be biased?
[02:09] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *goes to press my I'd Like To Talk button*
[02:09] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *it falls off the desk, dangling by its cords*
[02:09] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: They would have to formally renounce any political biases for their role.
[02:09] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Simialr to the way most presiding officers do in a legislative body.
[02:10] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (I hereby swear that I am completey unbiased, and thusly renounce all of my opinions here-to-fore.)
[02:10] nagakrion: Atalanti: Fair enough. Thank you *he sits down*
[02:10] Bly (bly1234): Sjutnariva Rep: *whispers to Tourny* You haven't been here for so long, your part of the table has fallen into disrepair.
[02:10] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: But fort he purposes of this discussion, I'd like the topic to stay strictly on the roles of the speaker, rather than how they would be elected.
[02:10] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *gives him a look* I've noticed, thank you. Can you help me get that?
[02:10] Bly (bly1234): Sjutnariva Rep: *presses Tourny's button*
[02:10] Bly (bly1234): Yes, Ambassador Tourny?
[02:11] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: DR. Tourny, sir, proceed.
[02:11] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Dude.
[02:11] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: I hold the floor.
[02:11] Bly (bly1234): Hey.
[02:11] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *rises*
[02:11] Bly (bly1234): You haven't done away with us yet.
[02:12] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): If this "presiding officer" is to be in truth unbiased...
[02:12] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Wouldn't it be counter-productive to select him, or her, through democratic means?
[02:13] nagakrion: (A competition!)
[02:13] nagakrion: (Obstacle course?)
[02:13] Bly (bly1234): (I like that one)
[02:14] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Each member of this council is undoubtedly biased, and as such instituting an election to select him would give them the opportunity to bribe and scheme.
[02:14] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: That's a fair point.
[02:14] Bly (bly1234): (I can already say this won't pass. The warring civs want one of their civs in partial control of the council at all times, plus I don't want it to pass so my sphere won't let it)
[02:15] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): In short, why give us a choice if in the end the choice shouldn't matter?
[02:15] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): That is all.
[02:15] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *begins sitting*
[02:16] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Good points raised, here, but as I've said previously, I'd like to keep the discussion on the presiding officer strictly directed at their purpose and function, rather than how they're selected. We can discuss the selection process when the purpose has been voted on. Does anyone else have any input?
[02:16] Kriggles (kris159): Krane: *presses button*
[02:17] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Mr. Krane.
[02:17] Bly (bly1234): *presses button*
[02:17] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (afk)
[02:18] Kriggles (kris159): Krane: It would benefit the neutrality of the presiding officer if those who were voicing the proposed resolution could select who holds the floor themselves, then the Presiding officer allows any other ambassadors, that the proposer may have missed, to speak when the proposer is done.
[02:18] Kriggles (kris159): Krane: Well, in short, to reduce the power of the presiding officer from complete control to partial control.
[02:19] nagakrion: *the Atalanti rep nods appreciatively*
[02:19] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: That's a good point, and, if I may, I will change my proposal to take that in to account.
[02:19] Kriggles (kris159): (I just thought fo that now, that wasn't scripted)
[02:19] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Does anyone else have any more input?
[02:20] Bly (bly1234): *presses button again*
[02:20] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Ah, Mr. Bly.
[02:20] Bly (bly1234): I'd like to point out what all involved in the war are probably thinking...
[02:21] Bly (bly1234): There's no way that you would want to give up your position of partially controlling the Capita Council and allowing a civilization you support to advance to that role.
[02:21] Bly (bly1234): ...
[02:22] Bly (bly1234): Also, there's a reason we have two chairpersons, as a checks and balances sort of deal. If one should be un reasonable, we have another to cancel him/her out.
[02:22] Bly (bly1234): And, if both are unreasonable, we have VIce-Chairs.
[02:22] Bly (bly1234): It's not logical to give all the power to one Speaker and have them rule over the council and have their rule go.
[02:23] Bly (bly1234): In most legislative bodies, the speaker is a member of the body and is elected by them.
[02:23] nagakrion: (Don't we have chairs to do that?)
[02:24] Bly (bly1234): (He's talking about removing the chairs)
[02:24] Bly (bly1234): (And implementing this single person)
[02:24] nagakrion: (No wonder you're mad)
[02:24] Bly (bly1234): (Shush)
[02:24] nagakrion: (Unless that person is you)
[02:24] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (back)
[02:24] Bly (bly1234): That is all. Unless there is any more input from you Mr. Jin, I'm prepared to bring this to a general vote.
[02:25] Bly (bly1234): Or if anyone else has something to say.
[02:25] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: I don't think, in the history of meetings structured using resolutions, there has been an instance of corruption wherein an ambassador has not been allowed to have their say. 
[02:26] Bly (bly1234): Does anyone else have something they'd like to add?
[02:26] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): I do.
[02:26] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Proceed, Dr. Tourny.
[02:26] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *stands up*
[02:26] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *opens mandibles*
[02:26] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Oh, right. *hits button*
[02:27] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Anyway.
[02:27] Bly (bly1234): *whispers to Ambassador Jununka* We have six more resolutions after this one too. Groan.
[02:27] Bly (bly1234): *the Ambassador nods *
[02:27] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Supreme Leader President Admiral Bly raises a point, citing checks and balances put in place to ensure the neutrality and sensibility of our leaders.
[02:28] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Howe
[02:28] Kriggles (kris159): ver
[02:28] nagakrion: (I can use big words too!)
[02:28] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (I'm just trying to make Kris hard.)
[02:28] Bly (bly1234): Actually, I'm not an Admiral.
[02:28] Bly (bly1234): SOrry, proceed.
[02:29] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): I believe the neutrality of the position, would be effectively ENSURED
[02:29] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): if such and officer were to be automated.
[02:29] Bly (bly1234): ...
[02:29] Bly (bly1234): *presses button*
[02:29] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): <.<
[02:29] nagakrion: (Drakonia will provide an AI)
[02:30] Bly (bly1234): (Bion Rep: I'd like to speak)
[02:30] Bly (bly1234): (Drakonian AI: *weapons burst out, shoots the Bion Rep)
[02:30] nagakrion: (it would basically take over the CC)
[02:30] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Is anyone going to call on Bly? lol)
[02:30] Bly (bly1234): (Oh, are you done talking?)
[02:30] Bly (bly1234): (I can call on myself)
[02:30] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Oh.)
[02:30] Bly (bly1234): Yes, Ambassador Bly?
[02:30] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Then I'm not =P)
[02:31] Bly (bly1234): Thank you, Ambassador Bly
[02:31] Bly (bly1234): Oh.
[02:31] Bly (bly1234): Having a robot in charge of the Capita Council is unheard of.
[02:32] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): There are many civilizations within the Council which have plenty of experience with artificial intelligence to create such an entity.
[02:32] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Including myself, and Drakonia.
[02:32] Bly (bly1234): Therewithin lies the problem.
[02:32] Bly (bly1234): The creator could program the robot to show favoritism.
[02:32] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: If we trusted software to be in charge of politics, we would not be here now.
[02:33] Bly (bly1234): It's time to take this to a vote!
[02:33] Bly (bly1234): Voting is now open on Resolution One.
[02:33] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Agreed. The selection process, or indeed the form, can be voted on at a later date.
[02:33] Kriggles (kris159): 25*
[02:33] Bly (bly1234): Yes, should we have a Presiding Speaker?
[02:33] Bly (bly1234): Or no, keep it the same.
[02:34] nagakrion: ( a blydonian AI )
[02:34] Kriggles (kris159): (Oh, I already consulted WOlf on all these propositions, so I'll vote for him
[02:34] Bly (bly1234): (Kris)
[02:34] Bly (bly1234): (I'm throwing a red flag)
[02:34] Kriggles (kris159): (?)
[02:35] Bly (bly1234): (Civilizations like Techia would -not- want this_
[02:35] Kriggles (kris159): (Bly, it's really not giving up your power)
[02:35] Kriggles (kris159): (Tell me the last time any chair member used their position to prevent somoene from contributing to a discussion)
[02:35] Bly (bly1234): (It's not even about that)
[02:35] Kriggles (kris159): (What's it about?)
[02:36] Bly (bly1234): (A powerhouse like Techia would want the chairs)
[02:36] Kriggles (kris159): (The chairs are not being abolished)
[02:36] Bly (bly1234): (So they could have a chance to potentially have a say)
[02:36] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (This is a virtual council and its mechanics do not affect us OOC?)
[02:36] Bly (bly1234): (...)
[02:36] Kriggles (kris159): (They still ahve all the votes)
[02:36] Kriggles (kris159): (Just their presiding over discourse is being abolished)
[02:36] Bly (bly1234): (Yes, but they don't have the same power)
[02:36] Bly (bly1234): (A civilization like Techia would want that)
[02:36] Kriggles (kris159): (power they can't possibly use, and never have, to their advantage)
[02:36] Bly (bly1234): (So they could covertly limit the ONP Civ's)
[02:37] Kriggles (kris159): (Bly: *Throw sin red flag to discuss votes*)
[02:37] Kriggles (kris159): (Bly: *does all votes while Kris is distracted*
[02:37] Bly (bly1234): (I did the votes before that flag)
[02:38] Bly (bly1234): (I scrolled down to check Techia as I was about to put N/a on Janka)
[02:38] Kriggles (kris159): (No one should have a problem with this. It is giving up chair power that no one can and ever has used)
[02:38] Kriggles (kris159): (Address that point or withdraw your no votes)
[02:38] Bly (bly1234): (Kris)
[02:38] Bly (bly1234): (It has been used)
[02:38] nagakrion: (Blydonia is a dick)
[02:39] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): ( _
[02:39] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (*Bly and Kris*)
[02:39] Kriggles (kris159): (Bly, is this another case of you not wanting to lose your stupid RPG power, or are you legitimately feeling this way?)
[02:40] nagakrion: (Are they about to mate? Cause there's a lot of sexual tension between bly and kris)
[02:40] Bly (bly1234): (I'm legitimately feeling this way)
[02:40] Bly (bly1234): (I'm going to lose my RPG power in July anyway)
[02:40] Bly (bly1234): (Next meeting*_
[02:40] Kriggles (kris159): (Give me an example of when it's been used)
[02:40] Bly (bly1234): (Manaki and Techia have both used their powers at one point to discriminate against the other)
[02:40] Bly (bly1234): (Also, they'd want the opportunity in the future to do so)
[02:41] Bly (bly1234): (Besides that, it's good to have checks and balances in the legislative system)
[02:41] Kriggles (kris159): (Okay then, but the neutral civilizations, they're voting yes)
[02:41] Bly (bly1234): (They should)
[02:41] Kriggles (kris159): (They're not currently)
[02:41] Bly (bly1234): (My circle isn't)
[02:42] Kriggles (kris159): (Why?)
[02:42] Bly (bly1234): (I don't like the prospect of having a single chairperson)
[02:42] Bly (bly1234): (I call it chairperson even though that's not the role name btw)
[02:42] Kriggles (kris159): (Even though pretty much every legislastive body int he mdoern world does)
[02:43] Bly (bly1234): (Yes, and look how pathetic and ineffective they are)
[02:43] Kriggles (kris159): (less pathetic and ineffective than having somsone who can vote and has not rennounced their bias)
[02:43] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): ( )
[02:43] Kriggles (kris159): (It failed anyway)
[02:43] Kriggles (kris159): (because you got the feels you didn't like it)
[02:43] Bly (bly1234): (Those who are in control are biased)
[02:44] Bly (bly1234): (In the United States, the Speaker of the House comes from the majority party)
[02:44] nagakrion: (and his name sounds like "boner"
[02:44] Bly (bly1234): (Yes)
[02:44] Bly (bly1234): (He comes from the majority party because he's elected as such)
[02:45] Kriggles (kris159): (The UK does, too, but he cannot vote and has to have someone replace his post as MP)
[02:45] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (I thought he just came from the majority party because the house doesn't even vote on it anymore because voting against your guy is akin to political suicide)
[02:45] Bly (bly1234): (That's not the way it is in the U.S.)
[02:45] Kriggles (kris159): (because he becomes non-partisan to avoid bias)
[02:45] Bly (bly1234): (You can't become "non-partisan")
[02:45] Bly (bly1234): (You can say you are)
[02:46] Bly (bly1234): (But you'll always have a political view on something, or in this case, a view on a specific civilization)
[02:46] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Why are you doing this OOC?)
[02:46] Bly (bly1234): (The U.S. does not exist in the Appearence)
[02:46] Kriggles (kris159): ("the Speaker remains strictly non-partisan, and renounces all affiliation with his or her former political party when taking office")
[02:46] Kriggles (kris159):
[02:46] Kriggles (kris159): (I'm done. Seciton 2)
[02:47] Bly (bly1234): The measure didn't pass.
[02:47] Bly (bly1234): What's section two?
[02:47] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Aliens)
[02:49] Bly (bly1234): *yields the floor to Ambassador Jin*
[02:49] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: The next two sections I shall not want to vote on this meeting. I would like to propose htem here, discuss them and make any changes, let governments and ministers convene, then discuss, change and vote next meeting.
[02:50] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: My first proposal is an internal proportional voting system. I, personally, do not believe that this should be voted on by ambassadors, but unless osmething else can be done, it will have to be.
[02:51] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: In internal proportional voting, an ambassador's vote can be split in to a mixed yes, no, or abstain of any percent. Their vote is determined by the department of that ambassador's government that deals with foreign affairs.
[02:51] nagakrion: *the Atalanti guy presses his button to join the speakers list when Jin finishes*
[02:52] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: *points to Atalant* Proceed 
[02:52] Bly (bly1234): (Okay)
[02:52] Bly (bly1234): (I'm going to be that guy)
[02:52] Bly (bly1234): (It's getting late and I'd like to go to bed because I have work tomorrow)
[02:52] Bly (bly1234): (Can we just get through this and list all the proposals?)
[02:53] Kriggles (kris159):
[02:53] Kriggles (kris159): (They're all there)
[02:53] nagakrion: *he stands* Thank you. If the vote is determined by the department of foriegn affairs, then why are ambassadors even needed?
[02:54] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: To provide any opinions on whether the proposal should be changed, to make discourse easier than dealing with thousands of government officials, and to announce their vote.
[02:55] Kriggles (kris159): (Bly, ignore and do not vote on section 5 for now)
[02:55] Kriggles (kris159): (If you're going to bed)
[02:55] Kriggles (kris159): (it takes some explanation)
[02:55] nagakrion: (this isn't section 4)
[02:56] nagakrion: Atalanti guy: And what is the reasoning for the percentages of a vote?
[02:56] Kriggles (kris159): (Yes it is. Section 2 is only really needed if section 4 is passed)
[02:56] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: It gives a more equal represntation of a civilization's government's stance, rather than just a black and white yes or no.
[02:57] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: A lot of civilizations here have governments that are split between two parties of opposing views. It's only fair that their views are repsented by the proportion of the government they have control of.
[02:57] nagakrion: Atalant: But in this system, a government's chosen representative has options besides yes or no. They can abstain, they can voice their concerns with a proposed resolution, and they can vote to amend that resolution or propose a new one
[02:58] Bly (bly1234): (I'm going to be honest with you Kris)
[02:58] Bly (bly1234): (I'm not sure I like any of these proposals)
[02:58] nagakrion: (You only want this so you can do percentages on a spreadsheet!)
[02:58] Kriggles (kris159): (I know you don't)
[02:58] Kriggles (kris159): (and so that we can do less CC meetingsd)
[02:58] Kriggles (kris159): (1 a month)
[02:58] nagakrion: (Drakonia doesn't get 10*10^99 votes?)
[02:58] Kriggles (kris159): (no)
[02:58] Kriggles (kris159): (They get the average)
[02:58] Bly (bly1234): (I only like the Budget one really)
[02:59] Kriggles (kris159): (I didn't use Gammeta to propose these for a reason)
[03:00] Bly (bly1234): (Naga's right)
[03:00] Bly (bly1234): (Did you find out how to use percentages on a spreadsheet?)
[03:00] Kriggles (kris159): (I've known this for a long time. I don't agree with that section and Gammeta's voting no on it, I was just putting it out there)
[03:00] Kriggles (kris159): (As I said, I'm not using Gammeta to propose these for a reason)
[03:01] Bly (bly1234): Does anyone else have anything they'd like to say about this matter?

[03:01] Kriggles (kris159): (... let's not RPG)
[03:01] Kriggles (kris159): (We'll do this all later)
[03:01] Bly (bly1234): (...)
[03:01] Bly (bly1234): (I just got a second wind)
[03:01] Kriggles (kris159): (...)
[03:02] nagakrion: (I want your help in extricating Atalant from the war, then, kris)
[03:02] Bly (bly1234): (Well, the Speaker measure failed so I don't think that Section 6 should come to vote)
[03:03] Kriggles (kris159): (Section 6 cannot be passed without section 1, it says at the top)
[03:03] Bly (bly1234): (oh)
[03:03] Kriggles (kris159): (I'd definitely like section 3 to come in to affect, because I can't be bothered with these twice a month and there aren't enough things to discuss)
[03:04] Kriggles (kris159): (Section 2 is useless without section 4)
[03:04] Kriggles (kris159): (and section 5 I'd like to discuss)
[03:04] <Pringles Fringles (padawanfighter) has left the room>
[03:04] Kriggles (kris159): (section 7 is pretty much unanimous IMO)
[03:04] Bly (bly1234): (I'd agree with Section 3)
[03:04] Bly (bly1234): (So that's pretty much unanimous)
[03:04] Kriggles (kris159): (lol)
[03:04] Bly (bly1234): (How should I vote on Sections 4 and 5?)

[03:04] Kriggles (kris159): (Naga, Tourny, do either of you approve of section 5?)
[03:05] Kriggles (kris159): (Section 5 is confusing)
[03:05] Kriggles (kris159): (I set up two models)
[03:05] nagakrion: (Atalant doesn't, they don't want bigger civs to dominate)
[03:05] Kriggles (kris159): (There's tow methods, and I'm unsure of how to vote on them)
[03:05] Kriggles (kris159): (Oh, wait)
[03:05] Kriggles (kris159): (I mean section 4)
[03:05] nagakrion: (Drakonia doesn't give a fuck, they only stay in the CC in case the Ichiri attack)
[03:06] Bly (bly1234): (Nasaad is just here for the free food)
[03:06] Kriggles (kris159): (can I vote all no in section 4?)
[03:06] nagakrion: (Atalant disagrees for the reasons he said earler)
[03:06] nagakrion: (SURE)
[03:06] Bly (bly1234): (Sure)
[03:06] Bly (bly1234): (wait!)
[03:06] Bly (bly1234): (Drakonia has to abstain)
[03:06] Bly (bly1234): The measure has failed.
[03:06] Bly (bly1234): What's next Ambassador Jin?
[03:06] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Section 3: Meeting frequency.
[03:07] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: I propose we decrease the frequency of meetings to once a month.
[03:07] Bly (bly1234): Everyone: AGREED.
[03:07] Bly (bly1234): The measure has passed.
[03:07] Bly (bly1234): What's next Ambassador Jin?
[03:07] Kriggles (kris159): (I need your guys' help with thsi)
[03:07] Kriggles (kris159): (I've got two models going)
[03:08] nagakrion: (At the same time? Kinky!)
[03:08] Bly (bly1234): (What are they made out of?)

[03:08] Kriggles (kris159): (lolululu)
[03:08] Bly (bly1234): (If they're made of Mega Bloks then you can count me out)
[03:08] nagakrion: (well done, kris)
[03:08] Kriggles (kris159): (One says "your population equals your vote")
[03:08] Kriggles (kris159): (Another one says "the square root of your population equals your vote", so bigger civs have less dominance.
[03:08] Bly (bly1234): (...)
[03:08] Kriggles (kris159): See for square root
[03:08] Bly (bly1234):  (How about neither)
[03:09] nagakrion: (Drakonia deserves better!)
[03:09] Kriggles (kris159): (BlyDonia gets one of the biggest votes from this, so you should vote yes)
[03:09] Bly (bly1234): (Oh)
[03:09] Bly (bly1234): (Good idea)
[03:09] Bly (bly1234): (Wait)
[03:09] Bly (bly1234): (We still don't believe in it, it'd be hypocritical)
[03:09] nagakrion: *Atalant presses the speaker button*
[03:10] Kriggles (kris159): (Hold on, Naga)
[03:10] Bly (bly1234): Oh fuck.
[03:10] Bly (bly1234): Do you guys have to speak every time?
[03:10] Kriggles (kris159): (I need your help. how do we vote on this if I have two models?)
[03:10] Bly (bly1234): (Vote on it!)
[03:10] nagakrion: (propose both, vote it out)
[03:10] Kriggles (kris159): (Do I have two resolutions, one for each model?)
[03:10] Bly (bly1234): *they both pass*
[03:10] nagakrion: *the Qanti senator next to bly* Excuse me?
[03:10] Bly (bly1234): Qanti isn't next to me?)
[03:11] Kriggles (kris159): (Okay, I know)
[03:11] Bly (bly1234): (I'm next to Drakonia and Bion)
[03:11] nagakrion: (bion does then. you were just like "oh, fuck")
[03:11] Bly (bly1234): (I whisper mean things about everyone to Bion)
[03:11] Bly (bly1234): (They wouldn't care)
[03:11] Bly (bly1234): (And Drakonia would give me a high-five)
[03:12] Kriggles (kris159): (People are sitting in alhpabetical order of their civilization)
[03:12] nagakrion: (the drakonian rep just does paperwork on his tablet most of the time)
[03:12] Bly (bly1234): Bazanian Rep: Bly, that was very inappropriate.
[03:12] Kriggles (kris159): (appaloutio - atalant - bazania - bion - blydonia - drakonia - east tudia)
[03:13] nagakrion: (hahaha tudia)
[03:13] Kriggles (kris159): (Bly, since this is a big section, I'd like us to leave the NPCs for now)
[03:14] Kriggles (kris159): (big as in it has the most effect)
[03:14] Bly (bly1234): (Mmm)
[03:14] Kriggles (kris159): Fin: I have a major section to propose now.
[03:14] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: *
[03:14] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: External proportional voting. A civilization's vote is proportional to their population.
[03:15] nagakrion: *the atalanti guy presses the speaker button*
[03:15] Bly (bly1234): (OHKAJHUYBgaw)
[03:15] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: In the first model, a civilization has as many votes as it does billions of people, except people under 500 million still represent 1 vote and Drakonia represnents the average amount of votes.
[03:15] Kriggles (kris159): *shows graph of that*
[03:16] Bly (bly1234): *looks at graph*
[03:16] Kriggles (kris159): (want link?)
[03:16] Kriggles (kris159):
[03:16] Kriggles (kris159): (Use tabs at the bottom to navigate)
[03:16] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: If I might cotninue, Atalant.
[03:17] nagakrion: Atalant: Of course! This is the "I'd like to speak when you're done" button, right?
[03:17] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: In the second model, a civilizations' votes is square rooted. This means bigger civilizations have less influence. Whereas in the previous model, a civilization with 100 billion would represent 100x more than a civilization with 1 billion, they only represent 10x more votes in this one.
[03:17] nagakrion: *he isn't being sarcastic, the Atalanti are nice people*
[03:17] Kriggles (kris159): *ah*
[03:18] Kriggles (kris159): *well, they DO have good civil rights and political freedoms*
[03:18] Kriggles (kris159): *and a good income equality*
[03:18] Bly (bly1234): (Well damn)
[03:18] Bly (bly1234): (I'm missing the Black Widow minifigure)
[03:18] Bly (bly1234): (Then my Avengers LEGO team would be done)
[03:18] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Now, I propos we vote on this in two resolutions.
[03:18] nagakrion: (rotfl)
[03:18] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: One for the first model, "exclusively-population", and one for the second model, "population-affected"
[03:19] Bly (bly1234): ($22!)
[03:19] Bly (bly1234): (They're out of their trees)
[03:19] Kriggles (kris159): Jin; Please proceed, Atalant.
[03:19] Kriggles (kris159): (brb)
[03:20] nagakrion: Atalant: Thank you. In your opinion, why do nations with a larger population deserve more votes? If this was the case, then the two or three largest nations could force legislation through, despite the wishes of the other members
[03:20] Kriggles (kris159): (back)
[03:20] nagakrion: (he's kind of a socialist)
[03:21] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Well, firstly, it is only logical that this happens. You split your civilization in to consistuents of equal population to make sure one section doesn't get a bias. 
[03:21] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Secondly, Nonan and Jankan have raised points in Wringon's opinion.
[03:21] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Satellite states cannot be created out of a civilizaiton in order to gain more votes.
[03:21] nagakrion: (I don't understand what he said in the first one)
[03:22] Kriggles (kris159): (Same reason of electoral colleges in America)
[03:22] nagakrion: (I still don't get it...)
[03:22] Kriggles (kris159): (Umm)
[03:22] Bly (bly1234): (Kris)
[03:22] nagakrion: (Can you explain it like you would to a slow person?)
[03:22] Kriggles (kris159):
[03:23] Bly (bly1234): (nvm)
[03:23] Kriggles (kris159): (Democracy is about representing the people, the demo.)
[03:23] Kriggles (kris159): (If you don't represent them proportionally, you're not truly representing them)
[03:23] nagakrion: (ohh, so this is representation based on all the people of the CC, not all the nations)
[03:24] nagakrion: (Like the Senate in the US versus the House?)
[03:24] Kriggles (kris159): (... IDK)
[03:24] Kriggles (kris159): (Techia gets more votes because it represents more people)
[03:24] Kriggles (kris159): (Orin gets 1 vote because it represents hardly any)
[03:24] nagakrion: (Senate: 2 reps per state. House: Reps based on population)
[03:24] nagakrion: (ok, I get it)
[03:24] Bly (bly1234): (Kris, how are you voting on this?)
[03:25] Kriggles (kris159): (We're doing a vote for just population, then we're doing a vote for square root of population)
[03:25] Bly (bly1234): (How is Gammeta voting, I mean)
[03:26] Kriggles (kris159): (I've had a while to think about it. No for exclusiovely population, yes for square root of population.
[03:26] nagakrion: Atalant: Isn't that comparing [apple-like fruit] to [orange-like fungus]? Proportional voting based on populations makes sense when voting for a government, but the Capita Council isn't a government. By and large, its policies don't impact the average citizen.
[03:27] nagakrion: Atalant: What is the point of having this body of nations if larger powers can control it? The whole point of the Council is to give all powers an equal voice
[03:27] Bly (bly1234): I'm going to have to agree with him.
[03:27] Bly (bly1234): Wait, I'm not supposed to be talking, carry on.
[03:27] nagakrion: Atalant: It's a slippery slope to large powers bullying the rest of the galaxy around. More votes, then enforced taxes to the CC, when will it end? Military action?
[03:29] nagakrion: Atalant: Each nation deserves an equal voice
[03:29] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: The main reason of this section is to prevent civilizations from creating satellite states, and using them to increase their vote in the council. I agree with you on that point, which is why I've created the population-affected model, in which population has a drastically reduced impact on your vote.
[03:30] Kriggles (kris159): (I dunno)
[03:30] nagakrion: Atalant: Still, population in the adjusted model has a massive impact on the vote. If a nation were to create a satellite state, an issue which has never happened, every new member must be voted on.
[03:31] nagakrion: Atalant: Every member must be sovereign, and so the satellite could be voted from the council, or not elected at all.
[03:32] nagakrion: Atalant: With all respect, this legislation is trying to correct a nonexistent problem by creating a real one.
[03:32] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Nonan is in the council. Has its recent shift of votes from those similar to the liebarlists to those of the imperialists just been coincidentally timed with its vassalage by the Bazanian Empire?
[03:33] Bly (bly1234): Probably.
[03:34] nagakrion: Atalant: If you believe that is the case, then it is your duty to inform the council, and call a vote considering the ejection of Nonan or the recognition of a government in exile, if one exists
[03:34] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (*stopped paying attention*)
[03:34] Bly (bly1234): (*same*)
[03:34] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Their government is still sovereign to the people, but the Bazanians are clearly controlling their foreign affairs.
[03:35] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: They slipped through the previous meeting because imperialists have more votes than the liberalists.
[03:35] nagakrion: (did they really vote on it last meeting?)
[03:35] Kriggles (kris159): (Yes. Janka, liberal satellite, was kicked. Nonan, imperialist satellite, was not)
[03:35] nagakrion: (nonan relevant!)
[03:35] Bly (bly1234): (You abstained, remember?)
[03:36] nagakrion: (oh lol)
[03:36] Kriggles (kris159):
[03:36] nagakrion: (no)
[03:36] nagakrion: Atalant: That is your belief that the Bazanians are controlling Nonan. You are welcome to put the matter to another vote at a later date
[03:38] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (I sort of half read everything.)
[03:38] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Does anyone else have any input?
[03:39] nagakrion: Atalant: Fine. If the biggest three powers vote to enslave the rest, I'll know who to thank *he laughs and sits down*
[03:39] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *preses button*
[03:39] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Dr. Tourny.
[03:40] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): If the bigger powers already control the council, what does this resolution change?
[03:40] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: *looks to Bly*
[03:40] Bly (bly1234): Yes?
[03:40] nagakrion: (OMG ILLUMINATI)
[03:41] Kriggles (kris159): (BLY)
[03:41] Kriggles (kris159): (COTNINUE0
[03:42] Kriggles (kris159): Krane: Okay, does anyone else wish to input?
[03:42] Kriggles (kris159): Krane: Okay, let's vote.
[03:42] Kriggles (kris159): Krane: First topic: Exclusive-population vote.
[03:43] Kriggles (kris159): (Bly: *doesn't want more votes, but wants more power*)
[03:44] Bly (bly1234): (...)
[03:44] Bly (bly1234): (What can I say, I stick true to my guns)
[03:45] Kriggles (kris159): (Hey Gough, vote)
[03:45] Kriggles (kris159): (This would be easier if we didn't have NPCs)
[03:45] Kriggles (kris159): (Bly, I just had an idea.
[03:45] Kriggles (kris159): (Made you life easier)

[03:45] Kriggles (kris159): (anything you enter in BlyDonia automatically goes to Bion, Andur and Hzia)
[03:45] Bly (bly1234): (No)
[03:46] Bly (bly1234): (Sometimes they don't agree with me)
[03:46] Kriggles (kris159): (I know, I was joking)
[03:46] Bly (bly1234): (Like now)
[03:46] Kriggles (kris159): (oh)
[03:47] Kriggles (kris159): (*doesn't want to do NPCs*)
[03:47] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Um... what is external proportional voting?)
[03:47] Bly (bly1234): (Can we just eject the unimportant ones from the Council?)
[03:47] Kriggles (kris159): (I could put a randomizer on them)
[03:47] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (So just BlyDonia is in the council?)
[03:47] Kriggles (kris159): (Voting is relative to population, TOurny)
[03:47] Bly (bly1234): (Hey, Tourny's got it)
[03:47] Kriggles (kris159): (If you've got 500 billion people, you've got 500 votes)
[03:47] Bly (bly1234): (No, the ones that are controlled by someone)
[03:48] Bly (bly1234): (So, Atalant, BlyDonia, Gammeta, Sanctuary, Orin, Etc)
[03:48] Bly (bly1234): (Klaorus)
[03:48] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (INternal Proportional Voting is where the vote depends on the number of republicans the republican ambassador represents?)
[03:48] Kriggles (kris159): (Internal: Within the nation)
[03:48] Kriggles (kris159): (External: Between the nations)
[03:49] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (idgi)
[03:49] nagakrion: (Like this photo if you want democracy! 1 like = 1 vote 1 share = 5 votes)
[03:49] Kriggles (kris159): (Tourny)
[03:49] Kriggles (kris159): (We're voting on whether your vote should be equivalent to your population)
[03:49] Kriggles (kris159): (If you've got 500 billion people, yoyu've got 500 votes. 25 billion, 25 votes)
[03:49] Kriggles (kris159): (If you've got 1 billion, 1 vote.
[03:49] Kriggles (kris159): (Anything under 500 million represents 1 vote, still)
[03:50] Kriggles (kris159): (Fuck it, it's over)
[03:50] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (lol ok I understand that. I just don't see how the terminology follows XD)
[03:50] nagakrion: (Santuary is like one big organism so does it get 1 vote?)
[03:50] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (^)
[03:50] nagakrion: (501 million? 0.5 votes!)
[03:50] Kriggles (kris159): (Well, it's rounded, so)
[03:50] nagakrion: (Population control to rush it over 1 billion or keep it under 500)
[03:50] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Why are we voting on whether or not Wringon should introduce 28.)
[03:50] nagakrion: (Sorry, baby number 500,000,000. Abortion time)
[03:50] Kriggles (kris159): (Resolution 28)
[03:51] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (What?)
[03:51] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Oh I was looking at 29.)
[03:51] nagakrion: (fuck with the budget)
[03:51] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Now, the same concept, but population is square rooted so that bigger civs have less power)
[03:51] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *presses button*
[03:52] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Dr. Tourny!
[03:52] nagakrion: (Nonan is voting like Bazania o.o)
[03:52] Kriggles (kris159): (That's because)
[03:52] Kriggles (kris159): (Nonan's diplomacy is handled by bazania)
[03:53] Kriggles (kris159): (Nona is Bazania's vassal)
[03:53] nagakrion: (ik)
[03:53] nagakrion: (nonan=polan!)
[03:53] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): If my calculations are correct, square rooting the population does not eliminate the advantage of a large population, but instead only lessens the difference a bit. Also, the square root of a number less tha one is bigger than the original number.
[03:54] Bly (bly1234): (Im gonna go)
[03:54] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *sits*
[03:54] nagakrion: (Bye bly)
[03:54] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Imagine if my civilization has 1 billion people, and yours has 100 billion.
[03:54] Kriggles (kris159): (bye)
[03:54] <Bly (bly1234) has left the room>
[03:54] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Oh, you've got 100x more votes than me.
[03:54] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Then if we root the vote.
[03:55] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: Oh, now you've only got 10x more votes than me.
[03:55] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): But I still win.
[03:55] Kriggles (kris159): Jin: That's the point. You win, but you don't have as much affect as you used to.
[03:55] Kriggles (kris159): (Erbadeh vote yes for budget cuts!)
[03:55] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Virtual budget cuts YAY)
[03:56] Kriggles (kris159): (Wow, only one abstain)
[03:56] nagakrion: (how about a recess for tonight)
[03:56] nagakrion: (till bly returns)
[03:56] Kriggles (kris159): (We're done anyway)
[03:56] Kriggles (kris159): (that was all I had)
[03:56] Kriggles (kris159): (Anyone had any other resolutions?)
[03:56] nagakrion: (no)
[03:56] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Replacing all the ambassadors with robots.)
[03:56] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Or mushrooms.)
[03:56] nagakrion: (want an ichiri attack sometime?)
[03:57] Kriggles (kris159): (Maybe)
[03:57] Kriggles (kris159): (Negoations, Naga?)
[03:57] nagakrion: (I want to play DoWII or Roller Coaster Tycoon!)
[03:57] Kriggles (kris159): fuck

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