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This is a chatlog of February 21, 2013. See category:chatlog of 2013 for chatlogs in the same year, and category:chatlog of 2013/02 for chatlogs in the same month.

[00:40] Bly (bly1234): *waits outside*
[00:40] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *there's a spider drone with a thing strapped to its back*
[00:40] Kris (kris159): CCSS: *responds*
[00:40] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (It's k, Kris, I'll skip arriving, too.)
[00:41] Kris (kris159): *The doors are opened, and Fin Asura is sat down around the table*
[00:41] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *it regards Bly curiously*
[00:41] Bly (bly1234): Fin Asura!
[00:41] Kris (kris159): *She stands elegantly, and projects*
[00:41] Bly (bly1234): We meet again!
[00:41] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *it crawls into the room*
[00:41] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Come in, everyone!
[00:41] Bly (bly1234): Where is Ambassador Krane?
[00:41] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Please, everyone, take a seat! Your seats should be labelled.
[00:41] Wolf82 (wolf802): *lulz Yulairian entourage arrives*
[00:41] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *it goes straight to fin, where it brushes against her/his legs like a cat*
[00:41] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: He's onboard, but he's not invited to this session.
[00:41] Bly (bly1234): *this is a different room than the CC Meeting Room*
[00:41] Kris (kris159): *no it's not*
[00:41] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Most of them are wearing some variant of the combat uniform*
[00:41] Bly (bly1234): *yes it is*
[00:41] Kris (kris159): *it's the exact same one*
[00:42] Kris (kris159): *THIS IS MY SUMMIT*
[00:42] Bly (bly1234): *it's exactly the same, but not the same*
[00:42] Kris (kris159): *FUCK*
[00:42] Bly (bly1234): *They're identical8
[00:42] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *a hologram of me projects from the thing on its back*
[00:42] Wolf82 (wolf802): (I can't even remember my names. I'm so bad.)
[00:42] Bly (bly1234): *Drinks my water*
[00:42] Kris (kris159): *Kails, Devier, Jennings, Moritz, Dornier and Lockley*
[00:42] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): v.v
[00:42] Bly (bly1234): *everyone else has one person*
[00:42] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: *waits for everyone to get comfortable*
[00:42] Bly (bly1234): *Wolf has an entourage*
[00:42] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Um...
[00:42] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Yulair's an oligarchy.)
[00:43] Wolf82 (wolf802): (They don't make decisions without everyone in charge getting a say.)
[00:43] Bly (bly1234): (*is Facebook friends with one of those people*)
[00:43] Kris (kris159): *They all have to sit on one chair*
[00:43] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): I'm not sure I can sit down.
[00:43] Bly (bly1234): (I think Kails)
[00:43] Kris (kris159): *The rainbow chair*
[00:43] Kris (kris159): *The chair's chair*
[00:43] Wolf82 (wolf802): *They'll stand.*
[00:43] Kris (kris159): *as per the CC regulations ...*
[00:43] Kris (kris159): * ... *
[00:43] Bly (bly1234): *...*
[00:43] Wolf82 (wolf802): *One will sit maybe.*
[00:43] Bly (bly1234): *looks to Fin Asura confused*
[00:44] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Wait. Not ev--)
[00:44] Wolf82 (wolf802): (What the fli pare we doing?)
[00:44] Bly (bly1234): Is everyone here?
[00:44] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *the spider crawls into a seat and makes itself comfortable*
[00:44] Kris (kris159): *section 1, verse 5, clause a, point i ...*
[00:44] Bly (bly1234): Oh, I forgot, I'm not chair.
[00:44] Kris (kris159): *... "Seats for all members with suitable comfort padding, adjustable height, adjustable back tilt, and a swivel mechanism (WOOHOO);"*
[00:44] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *I appear to be standing in the chair*
[00:44] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): ...
[00:45] Bly (bly1234): *drinks my water*
[00:45] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: *Clears throat by coughing out flem in to a tissue*
[00:45] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *awkwardly sits on the floor of the holo room on the Hive*
[00:45] Bly (bly1234): (Attractive)
[00:45] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Now that I've got your attention.
[00:45] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Welcome to the Summit.
[00:45] Bly (bly1234): Why is the S capitalized?
[00:45] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Proper noun.
[00:45] Bly (bly1234): Oh.
[00:45] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: This summit regards neutrality during the core war.
[00:46] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *nods and pretends I knew there was a war going on in the core*
[00:46] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: As such, please feel free to leave if you do not wish to observe such neutrality.
[00:46] Bly (bly1234): *everyone leaves*
[00:46] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Yulair stands*
[00:46] Wolf82 (wolf802): *They walk out*
[00:46] Wolf82 (wolf802): (JK.)
[00:46] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Kails raises a hand*
[00:46] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: I've gathered you all here so that we may found an alliance.
[00:47] Bly (bly1234): Excuse me.
[00:47] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Yes?
[00:47] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Kails motions for Bly to speak*
[00:47] Bly (bly1234): Are we following Capita Council Meeting Regulations?
[00:47] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: No.
[00:47] Bly (bly1234): *everyone just starts talking*
[00:47] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: We're following the "you're a planetary leader, act sensible" policy.
[00:48] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Ooh.)
[00:48] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Apply cold water to the burned area.)
[00:48] Bly (bly1234): No need to get offensive.
[00:48] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Yulair doesn't have a planet...
[00:48] Kris (kris159): (lol)
[00:48] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: I never said no one was not acting sensibly.
[00:48] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Or at least, they lead it not.
[00:48] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Kails snaps a gaze at Tourny*
[00:48] Bly (bly1234): You hinted.
[00:48] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Well, you should only have been offended if you were not acting sensibly.
[00:48] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *her gaze reflects back at her in my compound eyes*
[00:48] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Moving on!
[00:49] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *my holographic compound eyes, never mind*
[00:49] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *how the hell do I see?*
[00:49] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Provisionally, I've named this proposed group the "Alliance of Neutral Civilizations"
[00:49] Bly (bly1234): (I like how Tourny says stuff that should be in ()'s)
[00:49] Bly (bly1234): (It's mostly offensive)
[00:49] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: And I've also drafted a treaty behind this alliance.
[00:49] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (It is not, you just want moderator.)
[00:50] Bly (bly1234): (Jerk)
[00:50] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Whore)
[00:50] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Which is readable on your display.
[00:50] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Kails again raises a hand*
[00:50] Kris (kris159):
[00:50] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: *looks at Kails* Hmm?
[00:50] Bly (bly1234): *pulls out my DISPLAY*
[00:50] Kris (kris159): *no no*
[00:50] Kris (kris159): *you already have one on your table*
[00:50] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: I'd just like to ask... What about Yulair's stance? We've been supporting the Liberalists in the conflict.
[00:50] Bly (bly1234): *pulls out....A SECOND DISPLAY*
[00:51] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: It depends on the outcome of this meeting. Part of the treaty is about what qualifies being neutral, and thus whether you are eligible to be in the group.
[00:51] Wolf82 (wolf802): *She nods.*
[00:51] Bly (bly1234): *Presses the "I'd like to speak" button*
[00:51] Wolf82 (wolf802): (NOBLYPHUCKYOU)
[00:51] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Yes, Bly?
[00:52] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *tries to use the touch screen but can't*
[00:52] Bly (bly1234): I notice there are question marks next to certain civilizations.
[00:52] Bly (bly1234): Such as the Loam, Kumpia, and Lopgi.
[00:52] Kris (kris159): (That's not on the treaty)
[00:52] Bly (bly1234): Oh.
[00:52] Bly (bly1234): Sorry, my eyes deceived me.
[00:52] Bly (bly1234): (Can we just take them out of the treaty?)
[00:52] Kris (kris159): (What?)
[00:52] Bly (bly1234): (They're not even in the Capita Council)
[00:52] Kris (kris159): (No)
[00:52] Kris (kris159): (So what?)
[00:52] Kris (kris159): (CC is optional)
[00:53] Bly (bly1234): (Everyone knows the CC is where it's at)
[00:53] Bly (bly1234): (Every Ambassador has a pair of cool sunglasses)
[00:53] Kris (kris159): (SOme people don't want to be at)
[00:53] Kris (kris159): (Anyway)
[00:53] Kris (kris159): (WolfBly, read the treaty?)
[00:53] Bly (bly1234): (I was too busy laughing at Plaxis Maxis)
[00:53] Bly (bly1234): (And arguing with you)
[00:53] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Aye.)
[00:54] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: As you can see, this treaty also outlines a defensive pact.
[00:54] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Thus, making it a military alliance.
[00:54] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): So...
[00:55] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): We're supposed to be neutral until one of the warring parties attacks us...?
[00:55] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Yes.
[00:55] Bly (bly1234): In the past, Prime Regiona, we've all rejected a military alliance.
[00:55] Bly (bly1234): What's changed?

[00:55] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): I'm a bug now.
[00:55] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: The threat has materialized.
[00:55] Bly (bly1234): Yes, but should we be worried?
[00:56] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: I believe so.
[00:56] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Many civilizations in the deep core, who are somewhat encased in belligerents, might be.
[00:56] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Especially smaller civilizations.
[00:56] Bly (bly1234): President Warrex Emson: I believe so. BlyDonia might be a ways away from the Core, but we are all close.
[00:56] Bly (bly1234): I see.
[00:56] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): This says the Zubadans are belligerents?
[00:56] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): the core war?
[00:57] Wolf82 (wolf802): Jennings: Yes. You should be very worried. I've been out on the frontlines of the fighting both in the navy conflicts and planetary conflcits. 
[00:57] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: They are indeed, Tourny.
[00:57] Bly (bly1234): If I may ask, why?
[00:57] Wolf82 (wolf802): Jennings: The conflict is heated and the fighting is catastrophic in many places.
[00:57] Bly (bly1234): If you're involved in the conflict then hypothetically you aren't exactly neutral.
[00:57] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Now, regarding that, Bly.
[00:57] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: That's a point I raised.
[00:57] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: If I may, Yulairian delegates.
[00:57] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Didn't.
[00:57] Wolf82 (wolf802): *They look to Fin Asura*
[00:58] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: I invited everyone who to my intelligence was neutral in the war.
[00:58] Bly (bly1234): *looks to Emperor Hohrito Gekanjim*
[00:58] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Clearly, some of this intelligence is wrong.
[00:58] Bly (bly1234): Gekanjimy: ?
[00:58] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: Then we're doing our job. We've been trying to stay below the radar in our operations.
[00:58] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: But the treaty may be signed by anyone at any time, granted no one would leave it as a result of them signing.
[00:58] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: So Yulair can pull out and become neutral.
[00:59] Bly (bly1234): If I may be so bold.
[00:59] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Kails looks down rather troubled. She looks back up*
[00:59] Bly (bly1234): Hypothetically, Yulair isn't "involved" from what I hear.
[00:59] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: We're involved.
[00:59] Bly (bly1234): They do have covert operations, but aren't--
[00:59] Bly (bly1234): I was attempting to cover it up and allow you to join the treaty.
[00:59] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *tweets about it*
[00:59] Wolf82 (wolf802): Jennings: Actually, I'm supposed to supervising a Yulairian division being sent off to support Liberalist ground forces.
[01:00] Bly (bly1234): @PresidentBly
[01:00] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (jklololol)
[01:00] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: Miss Asura...
[01:00] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Yes?
[01:00] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: We want peace just as much...if not more...than you...
[01:01] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: As you know, we set out a delegate to announce Armana's plans to try to get our relief and peace missions back up and running.
[01:01] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: *looks down to think for a second, unsure of what was just said, but looks back up to let continue*
[01:01] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: No one responded, however...
[01:01] Bly (bly1234): *clears my throat*
[01:01] Bly (bly1234): You mean the pamphlets from the meeting?
[01:02] Kris (kris159): (Are you done?)
[01:02] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: For the past months we've been involved in fighting in and out of the Core War because it's the only way we can continue our mission of defending human rights. As much as we would like to join this group, I feel as though it would do more harm than good in the long run for us to do so.
[01:02] Kris (kris159): (oh)
[01:02] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador Faretel threw those away after glaring at the people who brought them.
[01:02] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: There's people out there who need help, and we can offer it. But that means that if we have to, we fight.
[01:02] Kris (kris159): (tell me when done)
[01:02] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Done.)
[01:03] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Firstly, I must say, the objective of this group is not to bring about peace.
[01:03] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: That's the job of the Commission set up by the Capita Council several days ago.
[01:03] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Our objective here is to maintain and ensure neutrality.
[01:03] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: We're trying to ...
[01:04] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: ... discourage belligerents from attacking any neutral civilizations by announcing military support for each other.
[01:04] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Oh.
[01:04] Bly (bly1234): I have a question.
[01:04] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: If you must fight in the war, then you are automatically withdrawn from the treaty by its articles.
[01:04] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Yes, Bly?
[01:04] Bly (bly1234): Say, for example, Manaki attacks the Kada Empire, we go to war and side with the Imperialists.
[01:05] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: No.
[01:05] Bly (bly1234): However, if the Imperialists at the same time attacks say, the Klaorus Republic
[01:05] Kris (kris159): (sorry for no)
[01:05] Kris (kris159): (ignore it)
[01:05] Bly (bly1234): Which way to we go?
[01:05] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Both, presumably.
[01:05] Bly (bly1234): (*we fight each other*)
[01:05] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Then we enter the war as a third side.
[01:05] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Fighitng both the imperialists and liberals.
[01:06] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: But let it be known ...
[01:06] Bly (bly1234): *There's a few murmers around the table at talk of a third side*
[01:06] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: ... we will not be attacking any forces, merely defending the territories of those instigated against.
[01:06] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: We most certainly will not be launching invasions.
[01:07] Bly (bly1234): Duhndent Rienalas Hiydaa: That's odd. Wouldn't we want to end the war for our own safety?
[01:07] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: No, this is a defensive pact, not an offensive pact.
[01:07] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): *Plaxis Maxis nods sagely*
[01:07] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Moritz stands*
[01:07] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: We're trying to encourage peace.
[01:07] Bly (bly1234): President Warrex Emson: Being on the simple defensive will just widdle our forces away.
[01:08] Wolf82 (wolf802): Moritz: (Somewhat offensively) ... Encourage peace?
[01:08] Wolf82 (wolf802): Moritz: The only thing that's going to encourage peace is one side standing down.
[01:08] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Wasn't Orin convicted of serial conquering or something?
[01:08] Bly (bly1234): Is Richard Killian here?
[01:08] Wolf82 (wolf802): (No.)
[01:08] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Risuk is a belligerent.)
[01:08] Bly (bly1234): Good, I don't see him.
[01:08] Bly (bly1234): (Risuk is on the list)
[01:08] Bly (bly1234): (As is Orin)\
[01:08] Kris (kris159): (It's a summit)
[01:09] Wolf82 (wolf802): (...Wai--)
[01:09] Wolf82 (wolf802): (oh.)
[01:09] Kris (kris159): (Leaders only)
[01:09] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (YOU'RE A SUMMIT)
[01:09] Wolf82 (wolf802): (They wouldn't come anyway.)
[01:09] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Risuk wants the war as much as Orin.)
[01:09] Bly (bly1234): (Dicks)
[01:09] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Indeed, Mr(s). Moritz.
[01:09] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: As I've said ...
[01:09] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: ... The Commission set up a few days ago has the goal of establishing peace.
[01:10] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): I think Asura's idea is a good one, though it would only work against the less powerful nations.
[01:10] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Our goal here is to discourage more hostilities.
[01:10] Wolf82 (wolf802): Moritz: If you want this to end, you're going to have to go on the offensive. You're going to have rally yourselves and -fight-.
[01:10] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Okay, then
[01:10] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: Leena, sit down.
[01:10] Bly (bly1234): Hohrito Gekanjimy: However, if war is declared, some of us might not like the side we're on.
[01:10] Bly (bly1234): *there's a few nods of agreement*
[01:10] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: If you want to go attack, you can. But I'll bet the majority of civilizations will not want to go on the offensive. Not nearly as much as the defensive.
[01:11] Wolf82 (wolf802): Moritz: Kails, you deal with this. I can't.
[01:11] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Jennings stands*
[01:11] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Excuse me, Mr. Gekanjimy?
[01:11] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): I don't see Risuk or Orin not attacking someone because they don't want a bunch of nobody civilizations attacking them.
[01:11] Kris (kris159): (One at a time)
[01:11] Wolf82 (wolf802): Jennings: I apologize. I support Ms. Moritz. The only solution is to stand up to them.
[01:11] Kris (kris159): (Remember the sensible policy!)
[01:11] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Just put my remarks in whereever.)
[01:12] Bly (bly1234): Hohrito Gekanjimy: I might not desire to be on a particular side.
[01:12] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: ... 
[01:12] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Then don't sign the treaty.
[01:12] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Jennings and Moritz maneuver away from their seats, give their respectful nods. Moritz clicks her heels and salutes. The two walk out*
[01:13] Bly (bly1234): Chancellor Ovan Ta: My civilization cannot sign this treaty. We support neutrality, however we do supply for both sides. 
[01:13] Bly (bly1234): Chancellor Ovan Ta: We are a trading federation first.
[01:13] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: You're permitted to supply both sides.
[01:13] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): ^
[01:13] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Except arms and manpower.
[01:13] Bly (bly1234): Chancellor Ovan Ta: We do supply arms, not manpower.
[01:13] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Then you're not neutral.
[01:13] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Is selling weapons parts against the terms of the treaty?
[01:14] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: No.
[01:14] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: May I suggest something?
[01:14] Bly (bly1234): Chancellor Ovan Ta: Our government might not, but the individual sects of our federation do arm both sides via companies.
[01:14] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): Just take the guns apart first, Ta.
[01:14] Bly (bly1234): Chancellor Ovan Ta: *gives him a strange look*
[01:14] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): You can charge more for them that way, anyway.
[01:15] Bly (bly1234): Kom an'Kom III: I'm willing to sign.
[01:15] Bly (bly1234): (I just wanted to type Kom an'Kom III)
[01:15] Kris (kris159): (UNIDIA'S MINE!)
[01:15] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: ...
[01:15] Bly (bly1234): (damn)
[01:16] Bly (bly1234): (Are some of these civilizations here?)
[01:16] Kris (kris159): (All of them are)
[01:16] Bly (bly1234): (Risuk and Orin didn't show up, so can we erase them from the list)
[01:16] Bly (bly1234): (Wolf said they didn't come)
[01:16] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Clailurstra isn't there.)
[01:16] Kris (kris159): (oh0
[01:16] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Clailurstra isn't even involved in galactic polotics.)
[01:17] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Actually.)
[01:17] Wolf82 (wolf802): (I don't think it'd be possible to send a message to them.)
[01:17] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Galactic Water Polo.)
[01:17] Wolf82 (wolf802): (I'll water your polo.)
[01:17] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Okay.
[01:17] Bly (bly1234): President Mistacia Pavare: Statement:
[01:17] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Lockley sighs*
[01:17] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Might I just interrupt, Mr(s) Pavare?
[01:18] Bly (bly1234): President Mistacia Pavare: -Some- of us in this room haven't gone to war because we lack-----
[01:18] Bly (bly1234): PMP: Yes.
[01:18] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Pimp.)
[01:18] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: I propose a change to article nine.
[01:18] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Plaxis Maxis)
[01:18] Bly (bly1234): (Intia President Judin Errection)
[01:18] Bly (bly1234): (I mean Irexa)
[01:19] Kris (kris159): (...)
[01:19] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (...)
[01:19] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (I g2g.)
[01:19] Bly (bly1234): (ok)
[01:19] Wolf82 (wolf802): (BYEBYE)
[01:19] Bly (bly1234): (Bye)
[01:19] DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny): (Bye!)
[01:19] Bly (bly1234): (Make me a moderator)
[01:19] <DR. Tourny Prime (dsqtourny) has left the room>
[01:20] Bly (bly1234): F
[01:20] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Everyone looks at Bly*
[01:20] Bly (bly1234): What is your change?
[01:20] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: I propose we erase article nine's content, and replace it with "A contracting party's government must not in any way sponsor exporting arms to belligerents. Private firms are exempt from exporting using their own or other private firms' provisions."
[01:20] Kris (kris159): As well as no manpower exporting.
[01:20] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura*
[01:20] Kris (kris159): :*
[01:21] Kris (kris159): (wait
[01:21] Bly (bly1234): Chancellor Ovan Ta: Excellent!
[01:21] Kris (kris159): (Private firms are permitted to*)
[01:21] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Adius Maxian II: If I may.
[01:22] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Adius Maxian II: I dislike the Liberalists, however I value my neutrality. This presents a rather troubling problem for me.
[01:23] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Adius Maxian II: If we do go to war against the Imperialists on the Liberalists side, that would be my government.
[01:23] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Okay.
[01:24] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Well, firstly, you only declare war against the belligerent whom attacked someone.
[01:24] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Adius Maxian II: It's implied you would end up at war with all the others, who would likely support their ally.
[01:25] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: You're only defending, though.
[01:25] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Which brings something to my mind, if I might.
[01:25] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Maxmilian Sanzi: Some of us here don't like the idea of defending.
[01:26] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Then don't sign the treaty. It is a defensive pact.
[01:26] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: Excuse me.
[01:26] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Yes?
[01:26] Bly (bly1234): President Warrex Emson: I'm afraid that Yulairian Delegate had a correct statement
[01:26] Bly (bly1234): President Warrex Emson: We cannot have a simple defensive pact, it needs to be offensive as well.
[01:26] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: I believe that most parties here would actually prefer to bring the war to a close rather than simply... Sit and wait on a defensive pact.
[01:26] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: I was just about to bring that up.
[01:27] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: I propose adding a new article to the treaty.
[01:27] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: However, I think it's agreed we want to stop as much bloodshed as possible.
[01:27] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: The declaration of war is, in all its forms, a full delcaration of war, and thus permits you to perform offensive strikes.
[01:27] <=[MK]=Padawan_Fighter (padawanfighter) has left the room>
[01:27] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: However, if the belligerent ...
[01:28] Bly (bly1234): President Mistacia Pavare: Why don't we simply join in as a third party and bring an end to the war?
[01:28] Bly (bly1234): President Plaxis Maxis: I thought this was a neutrality summit, not a war summit.
[01:28] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: ... announces its intentions of resuming neutrality between all contracting parties, a peace treaty with not erms other than peace must be signed.
[01:28] Kris (kris159): (Please don't interrupt)
[01:28] Bly (bly1234): (Sorry)
[01:28] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura; Does anyone oppose?
[01:29] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Actually.
[01:29] Kris (kris159): (wait)
[01:29] Kris (kris159): (I'm just going to write a few new articles)
[01:29] Kris (kris159): (then ask if you approve)
[01:29] Wolf82 (wolf802): (K.)
[01:29] Bly (bly1234): (I'll have the NPC's argue)
[01:29] Bly (bly1234): (So it doesn't get stale)
[01:30] Wolf82 (wolf802): (...)
[01:30] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: As I was saying...
[01:30] Bly (bly1234): Demomono Jaliss Tysia: A third side would make little sense. It's clear that at least some of us wish to be on one side.
[01:31] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: I believe those who want an end to the war should instead gather a strong military force and should begin operating in a manner that, sector by sector, stablizes the situation and brings an end to the fighting.
[01:31] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Hohrito Gekanjimy: This conference is basically bringing the civilizations that haven't declared war but want to declare war together. 
[01:32] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: And this would be without fighting if possible. If it comes down to being forced to fight, that is an entirely different scenario.
[01:32] Bly (bly1234): President Warrex Emson: The Klaorus Republic has no intent on declaring war on any civilization.
[01:32] Bly (bly1234): Chancellor Ovan Ta: We will remain neutral no matter what. As bad as this sounds, war is good for our civilization. It enhances our economy.
[01:32] Kris (kris159): (IS there a word for a peace treaty which just declares peace, nothing else?)
[01:33] Bly (bly1234): (no)
[01:33] Kris (kris159): (okay)
[01:33] Wolf82 (wolf802): (... Peace treaty.)
[01:33] Bly (bly1234): BlyDonia has no intent on going to war.
[01:34] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Maxmilian Sanzi: I see where Demomono Tysia is coming from. I know there's a side -I'd- like to be on.
[01:34] Bly (bly1234): President Mistacia Pavare: Oh? And what side is that Emperor Sanzi?
[01:35] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Maxmilian Sanzi: I don't need to discuss my civilizations internal affairs with you, Madam President.
[01:36] Bly (bly1234): Prime Regiona Frena Sahali'Ti: If you want war then declare it. Sitting about isn't going to end the conflict in any way. 
[01:36] Bly (bly1234): President Warrex Emson: How has this neutrality treaty summit dissolved into talks of civilizations declaring war?
[01:37] Bly (bly1234): President Judin Irexa: I disagree. This is a simple healthy debate.
[01:37] Kris (kris159): (Ready)
[01:37] Bly (bly1234): President Warrex Emson: Healthy? President Pavare and Emperor Sanzi were at each others throats not but a moment ago.
[01:37] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Ahem.
[01:37] Bly (bly1234): *The room comes to silence*
[01:38] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: I have modified the treaty to contain two more articles, directly after article six.
[01:38] Kris (kris159): *READ*
Article seven: In the event of article six, contracting parties may attack a belligerent until the belligerent announces its intentions to make peace. An armistice must be declared instantly, and a peace treaty which is equal to both sides must be signed as soon as possible. Contracting parties not wishing to sign the peace treaty are withdrawn from this treaty.

Article eight: If a belligerent instigates or declares war on a contracting party a second time, and article six comes into effect, all contracting parties must agree to the peace treaty before it is signed. The war must continue without armistice until all contracting parties agree to make peace.
[01:39] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Article seven encourages a status quo neutrality
[01:39] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Lockley looks at Kails intensely*
[01:39] Wolf82 (wolf802): *he nods*
[01:39] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: And article eight ensures belligerents cannot use the treaty to their advantage.
[01:39] Wolf82 (wolf802): *Kails looks to Dornier who also nods*
[01:39] Bly (bly1234): *looks to Kails*
[01:39] Bly (bly1234): *nods*
[01:39] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: I have a proposition.
[01:40] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Go on.
[01:40] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: Article seven... I like the revised version. But, here's the thing. Let me ask all of you who may be interested in joining. And this is for you as well, Miss Asura. We want to achieve peace, yes?
[01:40] Bly (bly1234): (*Chancellor Ovan Ta takes off a mask revealing himself to be...MCG!*)
[01:40] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: This is not the obbjective of this treaty.
[01:41] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: It's to encourage peace.
[01:41] Bly (bly1234): I must agree.
[01:41] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Yes, but not to help establish it between the two sides.
[01:41] Bly (bly1234): Forming our own coalition will encourage the others to stand down.
[01:42] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: Well, sitting here defensively won't help peace. I don't think so, anyway.
[01:42] Bly (bly1234): (*Pirates arrive at Simbria*)
[01:42] Bly (bly1234): (*And take all the galactic leaders hostage*)
[01:42] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Please continue, Mr(s) Kails.
[01:42] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: Getting directly involved and forcing the fighting to stop on the other hand...
[01:42] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: I propose this:
[01:43] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: I propose that we instead, while largley following the same terms, get involved in the Core War, planet by planet, occupy it, reform it as needed and then move on to the next area. Now, I know reform is a scary word, but I think this could potentially greatly better the galaxy if we do it right, and I think I know how we can do this.
[01:44] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: It could promote better lifestyles, more safety, and most of all, less conflict.
[01:44] Bly (bly1234): President Plaxis Maxis: Wringon does not support violence.
[01:44] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: We wouldn't be doing it through violence.
[01:44] Bly (bly1234): President Plaxis Maxis: We're here for neutrality and protection. Occupying and taking a planet is violent.
[01:44] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: At all costs, we do it peacefully. If we have to fight, there's ways we can fight with little casualties.
[01:45] Wolf82 (wolf802): Dornier: I believe what Miss Kails is suggesting is employing Yulairian strategy in the same manner that we proposed at the CC meeting.
[01:45] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Maxmilian Sanzi: You're a Liberalist. Some of us do not share the views that you will impose upon those people.
[01:45] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: We support human rights. 
[01:46] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Maxmilian Sanzi: I believe most civilizations in the Core War do as well.
[01:46] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: But these reforms would be done in cooperation with the planet... In cooperation with the population.
[01:46] Bly (bly1234): Duhndent Rienalas Hiydaa: And if the population doesn't cooperate? We'd have just wasted time, resources, and troops to take a planet that doesn't want us?
[01:46] Kris (kris159): Fin Asume: Miss Kails, are your prepositions not more suited for a Commision to End the War in the Core meeting?
[01:47] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: ... Yes.
[01:47] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Hohrito Gekanjimy: Also, won't that invite the other civilizations to attack us?
[01:47] Wolf82 (wolf802): Kails: And that's what shall be had.
[01:47] Bly (bly1234): Supreme Doyen Dophilus: If I may be so bold, I'd say the time for neutrality for some of us is at an end.
[01:48] Wolf82 (wolf802): Dornier: I believe we will excuse ourselves now. We will contact you with more information on our strategies and we will allow you to decide after you see what we have to say.
[01:48] Bly (bly1234): Supreme Doyen Dophilus: Most of us are supporting one side without declaring war. 
[01:48] Wolf82 (wolf802): Lockley: Best believe me. It'll work. This plan can work if we get enough people to support it.
[01:48] Bly (bly1234): *nods at the Yulairian's*
[01:49] Wolf82 (wolf802): *They nod, maneuver away from their chairs, and step out of the room*
[01:49] Bly (bly1234): President Warrex Emson: Some of us are truley neutral.
[01:49] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: *looks at them with anger and disgust as they walk out*
[01:49] Wolf82 (wolf802): (lulz)
[01:49] Kris (kris159): (seriously, though)
[01:49] Kris (kris159): (Will they not evne hear the rest of this discussion?)
[01:49] Kris (kris159): (It's a bit rude)
[01:49] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Yulair wants to take action.)
[01:49] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Not sit around and defend.)
[01:49] Wolf82 (wolf802): (And...)
[01:49] Kris (kris159): ("Our plan, not yours. We're not even going to listen.")
[01:50] Bly (bly1234): Emperor Hohrito Gekanjimy: I for one support the Imperialists, however I don't believe war is correct at this time...
[01:50] Wolf82 (wolf802): (Pretty much.)
[01:50] Wolf82 (wolf802): (That's how Yulair operates.)
[01:50] Bly (bly1234): Supreme Doyen Dophilius: This war will continue until one side wins. Don't you want to be on that winning side?
[01:50] Kris (kris159): (They suck at trying to get people onboard, then)
[01:50] Wolf82 (wolf802): (They're very... Strong-willed in their beliefs.)
[01:50] Bly (bly1234): Demomono Jaliss Tysia: Please sit down, Dophilius.
[01:51] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Does anyone wish to contribute anything with substance to this neutrality treaty before I conclude the summit?
[01:51] Bly (bly1234): (Kris)
[01:51] Bly (bly1234): (Let the civ's argue)
[01:51] Kris (kris159): (Fin won't. She's not going to waste her time with arguments that could be had in the commission)
[01:51] Bly (bly1234): (Then a delegate will yell at her!)
[01:52] Bly (bly1234): Supreme Doyen Dophilius: I shant.
[01:52] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Righty-ho.
[01:52] Bly (bly1234): Supreme Doyen Dophilius: This meeting will not end. It is no longer about the treaty.
[01:52] Bly (bly1234): None of us even signed...
[01:52] Bly (bly1234): *looks to Fin Asura confused*
[01:52] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: This concludes the summit.
[01:52] Bly (bly1234): Demomono Jaliss Tysia: If that's your perrogative then declare war on someone!
[01:53] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Please sign your name on the provisional alliance list if you wish to be part of the treaty.
[01:53] Bly (bly1234): Supreme Doyen Dophilius: I won't be signing.
[01:53] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Otherwise, you have seven days before it comes in to effect.
[01:53] Wolf82 (wolf802): (What's the...)
[01:53] Kris (kris159): Fin Asura: Feel free to retire to the high lounge, depart the station, or continue here to discuss neutrality.

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