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This is a chatlog of April 08, 2011. See category:chatlog of 2011 for chatlogs in the same year, and category:chatlog of 2011/04 for chatlogs in the same month.

[20:42] <The room title is now "the appearance realm">
[20:42] <Your current permission level for this room is "Power User">
[20:42] <Today's Message: "Rules: 
Use ()'s in OOC chatting
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Major Civs are given Admin 
Smaller, yet still main Civs and Characters are Mods
Kris is a power user">
[20:42] <Bly (bly1234) (Admin) has entered the room>
[20:43] Kris (kris159): (ok...)
[20:43] Bly (bly1234): *Walks---wait im not there*
[20:43] Heroi Krane (kris159): *everyone's arrived as the meeting time was incorrectly predetermined*
[20:43] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador: Wow, that was a long 40 minutes
[20:44] Heroi Krane (kris159): Well, I apologize for the tardiness of said 40 minutes.
[20:44] Heroi Krane (kris159): Let's continue.
[20:44] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador: It's ok. Who do I represent? *Disappears*
[20:44] Heroi Krane (kris159): Yiin Cartunas: ...
[20:44] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador Long: *giggles* How silly!
[20:44] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: I've spoken with my constitution.
[20:45] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: If the second treaty can be so easily repealed by one nation, then so can the first.
[20:45] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Which makes Yinto legally in Techia's possession, however we're not at a state of war.
[20:45] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: As there was no decleration.
[20:45] Bly (bly1234): *Nano stands up*
[20:45] Bly (bly1234): Nano: Don't you dare set a foot on Yinto
[20:46] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: It's completely fair.
[20:46] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: That is incorrect.
[20:46] Bly (bly1234): Nano: Jankan Citizens and or Officials have not arrived on Nakar IV.
[20:46] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: As I said, if the second peace treaty can be lawfully repealed without consequence, then the first can easily.
[20:47] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: If you dare take Yinto, then you will be constituting an act of war.
[20:47] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: I will not be the instigator.
[20:47] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: We shall protect Yinto.
[20:47] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: You dare npt to seize it.
[20:48] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: President Nano, you can either officially reestablish the second treaty, or cancel the first one in not doing so.
[20:49] Bly (bly1234): Nano: I shall not reestablish the second treaty.
[20:49] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Then you have repealed the first.
[20:49] Bly (bly1234): Nano: We, and other members of the ADL, shall back up the Lunor Republic.
[20:49] Bly (bly1234): *The Andurian Representative stands*
[20:49] Bly (bly1234): Carna: I cannot allow my civilization be drawn into war.
[20:49] Heroi Krane (kris159): Kada rep: I agree.
[20:50] Bly (bly1234): Carna: My constituents might allow their lust for bloodshed draw them into a full scale war.
[20:50] Bly (bly1234): Carna: But, the Andur Empire shall not.
[20:50] Bly (bly1234): Carna: Consider the Andur Empire withdrawn from the Appearance Democracy League.
[20:50] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: President Nano, you are effectively declaring war because -you- didn't want to give up a planet.
[20:51] Bly (bly1234): *Carna steps away from the table, no one else joins her. The others sit defiantly, glaring at her angrily*
[20:51] Bly (bly1234): Nano: If it is a war you want, National Leader, it is a war you shall get.
[20:51] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador Long: Hold on everyone!
[20:51] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: I do not want war.
[20:51] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador Long: War is not the answer!
[20:51] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Infact, I shall not declare war at all.
[20:51] Bly (bly1234): *he sits down, realizing he's not involved.
[20:52] Bly (bly1234): Nano: None of this would even be an issue should your fleet have not attacked Yinto.
[20:52] Bly (bly1234): And the Lunor Republic, a soveriegn nation in the Capita Council, and your ally.
[20:52] Bly (bly1234): Nano:*
[20:52] Bly (bly1234): *Ambassador Carna leans in to talk to Krane*
[20:52] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: That doesn't matter, you're canceling both treaties.
[20:53] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: if Lunor wants to go against the repeal, it can do so.
[20:53] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: but legally, I have control of Yinto now.
[20:53] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador Carna: I seek readmittance into the Capita Council. I understand the necessary procedure, and will undergo it. Leaving was a mistake.
[20:53] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: Over my dead body. 
[20:53] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: If you move your ship over Yinto, you will be declaring an act of war.
[20:53] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Is there something you people don't get?
[20:54] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: -Legally-.
[20:54] Bly (bly1234): Nano: The other, loyal *he motions to those sitting on the ADL side*, members shall back me up.
[20:54] Bly (bly1234): Kias Maon: You instigated by attacking Yinto and the Lunor Republic.
[20:54] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: That doesn't matter.
[20:55] Bly (bly1234): Sing: We were gracious not to expel you from the Capita Council. 
[20:55] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: We?
[20:55] Bly (bly1234): Yinnan: We were able to forgive you, but we vill not forgive such an attrocity.
[20:55] Bly (bly1234): Nano: The ADL members had a clear majority in the Capita Council.
[20:55] Heroi Krane (kris159): (Who's Sing?)
[20:55] Bly (bly1234): In fact, the only ones against it were your puppets.
[20:56] Bly (bly1234): (Unidia)
[20:56] Bly (bly1234): Nano:*
[20:56] Heroi Krane (kris159):
[20:56] Heroi Krane (kris159): (an'Kom III is unidian)
[20:56] Bly (bly1234): (No)
[20:56] Bly (bly1234): (Sing is the official ADL ambassador)
[20:56] Heroi Krane (kris159): (This is supposed to be a summit for leaders, not coalitions)
[20:56] Bly (bly1234): (oh)
[20:56] Heroi Krane (kris159): (lol)
[20:57] Bly (bly1234): Sing: *is replaced by whathisface*
[20:57] Heroi Krane (kris159): (an'Kom III)
[20:57] Bly (bly1234): (Ok)
[20:58] Bly (bly1234): (Can I put Andur back into the CC?)
[20:58] Bly (bly1234): (They left the ADL)
[20:58] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: (we'll do majority vote on Sunday)
[20:58] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: What happened before the end of the Yinto situation does not matter.
[20:58] Bly (bly1234): (ok, I'll put them as neutral party)
[20:58] Heroi Krane (kris159): (ok)
[20:58] Bly (bly1234): Nano: It full well matters.
[20:58] Bly (bly1234): Nano: Your country instigated to get Yinto, and to force an unfair treaty on us.
[20:59] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Unfair?
[20:59] Bly (bly1234): Nano: A treaty that involved the former BlyDonian President to give up one of our planets.
[20:59] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: I payed full repirations.
[20:59] Bly (bly1234): Nano: A planet that was taken almost a year ago.
[20:59] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Including the repairing of the Devlabordich, which costed a lot of our government spending.
[20:59] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: All the repirations in the galaxy couldn't equal the loss of life!
[20:59] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Loss of life?
[21:00] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: There were about 4,000 casualties.
[21:00] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Lunor has over 30 -billion- citizens.
[21:00] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: One loss of life is still a loss of life.
[21:00] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Gratus ordered the targetting only of government and military structures, not civilians, but this does not matter now.
[21:00] Bly (bly1234): Nano: It matters plenty.
[21:00] Bly (bly1234): *he rises*
[21:01] Bly (bly1234): Nano: These talks are over. I am moving my forces to both Nakar IV and to Yinto. The others in the ADL will join me. You shall not get either planets.
[21:01] Bly (bly1234): *His compatriates in the ADL rise*
[21:01] Heroi Krane (kris159): Heroi Krane: Gammeta will respond lawfully.
[21:01] Bly (bly1234): Nano: If it is a war you want, National Leader, it is a war you shall get.
[21:01] Bly (bly1234): (What does that mean, Kris?)
[21:01] Heroi Krane (kris159): Krane: Please be seated.
[21:02] Heroi Krane (kris159): (whoops, no need for tag)
[21:02] Bly (bly1234): (Kris?)
[21:02] Bly (bly1234): (What did you mean by "Respond Lawfully"?)
[21:02] Heroi Krane (kris159): (I'm explaining now)
[21:02] Bly (bly1234): (oh)
[21:02] Bly (bly1234): *The ambassadors sit*
[21:02] Heroi Krane (kris159): Yinto is legally in Techian hands because there were no articles which constituted whether the treaties could be repealed or what the consequence of repealing them would be.
[21:03] Heroi Krane (kris159): Yinto: Legally, at least, if Cartunas officially repeals it.
[21:03] Heroi Krane (kris159): (What?)
[21:03] Heroi Krane (kris159): (I didn't mean to put Yinto tag)
[21:03] Heroi Krane (kris159): (wtf, rotlf)
[21:03] Heroi Krane (kris159): Gammeta is a neutral party, we are protecting the law.
[21:03] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: Yinto was in our hands, until they seized it.
[21:04] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: If it is in Techian hands, we shall take it back, with force if necessary.
[21:04] Heroi Krane (kris159): Then Gammeta will defend, as that is unlawful.
[21:04] Heroi Krane (kris159): Just as Gammeta defended it against the Techians.
[21:05] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: Speaking for President Joesey, who could not attend, I shall not all Lunoric Citizens to live under Techian Oppression and Rule.
[21:05] Heroi Krane (kris159): Do the members of ADL really wish to start a war because one of their members refuses to return a planet?
[21:05] Bly (bly1234): *The members nod their heads*
[21:05] Heroi Krane (kris159): -all- of the members?
[21:05] Heroi Krane (kris159): Unlawfully?
[21:05] Bly (bly1234): Kias Maon: It was taken unlawfully by the Techians
[21:05] Heroi Krane (kris159): We defended it.
[21:05] Heroi Krane (kris159): But failed.
[21:06] Bly (bly1234): Kias Maon: We're taking it back, unlawfully for the Lunoric Republic, the original owners.
[21:06] Heroi Krane (kris159): Then you may wish to rename your coalition, because it does not seem legitimate.
[21:06] Bly (bly1234): Kias Maon: These are Lunor Citizens.
[21:06] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: I shall allow them to leave if they wish.
[21:06] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: They are not leaving.
[21:06] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: I would also be willing to supply evacuation funds.
[21:06] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: We, as well as Lunoric Forces there, will defend the planet, even if it costs every life on the planet.
[21:07] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: We will not lose our planet so you may satiate your bloodlust.
[21:07] Bly (bly1234): (Kris)
[21:07] Bly (bly1234): (You realize the Wringon Republic has their own page)
[21:07] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: I thought you valued life to the fullest.
[21:07] Heroi Krane (kris159): (Yeah... I just cba with flags, lol)
[21:07] Bly (bly1234): (fix it naow!)
[21:07] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Now you will sacrifise it for a mere planet?)
[21:08] Bly (bly1234): Kalori: We will do what we must.
[21:08] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: You are hypocrites.
[21:08] Bly (bly1234): (Our vast traffic and audience will be lost!)
[21:08] Heroi Krane (kris159): (?)
[21:08] Bly (bly1234): (I was saying, all the people not in the RPG who go to our wikia will be lost)
[21:08] Heroi Krane (kris159): (Oh...)
[21:09] Heroi Krane (kris159): (They can wait =))
[21:09] Bly (bly1234): *A band of hypocrittapotomuses break into the room, and stomp on Kalori*
[21:09] Heroi Krane (kris159): (lol!)
[21:09] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: So tell me, leaders, do you truely value the interests of your people, or your governments?
[21:09] Bly (bly1234): Nano: That is not your concern.
[21:10] Bly (bly1234): Nano: The people support us. Your aggression is finished.
[21:10] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Clearly it is the latter.
[21:10] Bly (bly1234): Who is next?
[21:10] Heroi Krane (kris159): (...)
[21:10] Bly (bly1234): Which civilization will lose a planet next?
[21:10] Bly (bly1234): Nano:***
[21:10] Bly (bly1234): Nano: Will it be from the Unidia Republic?
[21:11] Bly (bly1234): Nano: What about the Appaloutio Republic?
[21:11] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Your civilizations started the instigations, President.
[21:11] Bly (bly1234): Nano: Explain.
[21:11] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: The BlyDonian-Jankan war triggered all of this.
[21:11] Bly (bly1234): Nano: That was months ago.
[21:11] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Time does not matter.
[21:11] Bly (bly1234): Nano: And do not forget that the Jankan Empire started the war.
[21:11] Bly (bly1234): Nano: We ended it.
[21:12] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: You "started" it, if by started you mean instigated and declared.
[21:12] Bly (bly1234): Nano: We did not start it.
[21:12] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: You could've just targetted military and governmental structures humainly, like we did, but no.
[21:12] Bly (bly1234): Nano: As I said, the Jankan Empire did.
[21:13] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: So it's now legitimate to take planets by force without consequence?
[21:13] Bly (bly1234): Nano: When they instigated and almost took ours.
[21:14] Heroi Krane (kris159): (hmm...)
[21:14] Heroi Krane (kris159): (I'm running out of arguments!)
[21:14] Heroi Krane (kris159): (think of some for him!)
[21:14] Bly (bly1234): (he has none)
[21:14] Bly (bly1234): (and shes a woman)
[21:14] Bly (bly1234): Nano: As I was trying to say.
[21:14] Heroi Krane (kris159): (he's a leader, he's going to be a little more interlectual than a 15 year old guy)
[21:14] Bly (bly1234): Nano: These talks are finished.
[21:15] Bly (bly1234): (16 now Kris!)
[21:15] Heroi Krane (kris159): (WTF, I forgot, lol)
[21:15] Bly (bly1234): *Nano, and his other ADL Ambassadors rise*
[21:15] Bly (bly1234): Nano: Carna, you have made a mistake by leaving the ADL. Your civilization won't be protected when the Techians take your planets.
[21:15] Bly (bly1234): *with that closing comment, he and the others turn to leave*'
[21:16] <Vat Rayen ㅎ.ㅎ (darthvatrayen) (Normal) has entered the room>
[21:16] Heroi Krane (kris159): *the door closes behind them*
[21:16] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: He is a stubborn and bigoted one.
[21:16] Bly (bly1234): ...
[21:16] Bly (bly1234): *Invites Vat here?*
[21:16] Bly (bly1234): (I thought TT?)
[21:17] Heroi Krane (kris159): Even if Techia does attack you, Gammeta shall defend lawfully.
[21:17] Heroi Krane (kris159): *Carna's now under my control?*
[21:17] Bly (bly1234): (Mine still)
[21:17] Bly (bly1234): (But, we can both control her)
[21:17] Bly (bly1234): Carna: They're stubborn fools.
[21:18] Bly (bly1234): Carna: We Andurians dislike War.
[21:18] Bly (bly1234): Carna: That is why I could not contrinue down their path.
[21:18] Heroi Krane (kris159): I must admit, the ADL do seem a little...
[21:19] Heroi Krane (kris159): ...well, rather, members now in it seem a little more interested in their governments than I once perceived.
[21:19] Bly (bly1234): Carna: They're all blind.
[21:20] Bly (bly1234): Carna: This war will be popular, yes. However, it will soon be costly, and neither side will be willing to end it.
[21:20] Heroi Krane (kris159): They seem to forget that civilizations are effectively unities of a people, not some kind of game whereby the government is the player and the people are the prawns.
[21:20] Bly (bly1234): pawns*
[21:20] Heroi Krane (kris159): (rotfl!)
[21:21] Heroi Krane (kris159): National Leader, are you going to officially repeal the first treaty?
[21:21] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: I will need time to consider it.
[21:21] Bly (bly1234): Ambassador Long: National Leader, should you repeal it, you must realize that they will not hesitate to start a war with you.
[21:22] Bly (bly1234): *Ambassador Long is paged*
[21:22] Bly (bly1234): Long: Sorry, I must go
[21:22] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: Yes, but I am trying to devise a plan which will avoid this.
[21:22] Heroi Krane (kris159): Very well.
[21:22] Bly (bly1234): Long: (BEAMSHIPSALASKIABYE)
[21:22] Heroi Krane (kris159): (lol!)
[21:22] Bly (bly1234): *is on Salaskia*
[21:22] Heroi Krane (kris159): That will seem difficult considering...
[21:23] Heroi Krane (kris159): ...well, their outright stubbornness.
[21:23] <~Naga Krion~ (nagakrion) (Admin) has entered the room>
[21:23] Bly (bly1234): (Hi Naga)
[21:23] Bly (bly1234): *Salaskia City is progressing along well*
[21:23] Heroi Krane (kris159): We must first make some of the ADL members realize that you are being completely fair and legitimate.
[21:24] Bly (bly1234): *Now instead of one 2X4 board, there are two*
[21:24] Heroi Krane (kris159): (lol)
[21:24] <~Naga Krion~ (nagakrion) has left the room>
[21:24] Heroi Krane (kris159): Ambassador Fi, what is your stance on this?
[21:24] Heroi Krane (kris159): (wait, no)
[21:24] Bly (bly1234): *Is walking with a foreman*
[21:24] Heroi Krane (kris159): Ambassador Junuka*
[21:24] Bly (bly1234): (Crap, I control him)
[21:24] Heroi Krane (kris159): (=P)
[21:24] Bly (bly1234): Junuka: The Bion Federation wishes to remain neutral.
[21:25] Bly (bly1234): Junuka: However, we will back you and CC members up should we need to
[21:25] Bly (bly1234): Junuka: Not the CC members who are members of the AIL though
[21:25] Heroi Krane (kris159): Gammeta's versio of neutral is by the law.
[21:26] Heroi Krane (kris159): We cannot classify the Capita Council as a military coalition, as they currently have a mix of members.
[21:26] Bly (bly1234): *The Government Building is nearly finished, as is Government Square and the House of Ministers*
[21:26] Bly (bly1234): Junuka: Agreed.
[21:26] Heroi Krane (kris159): By classifying them as sided or militaristic, it just becomes a military alliance.
[21:26] Heroi Krane (kris159): Cartunas: mmm.
[21:26] Bly (bly1234): *Also being built are taller buildings*
[21:27] Bly (bly1234): *however, the tall buildings, which will serve as living quarters, are merely framework at this point*
[21:27] Bly (bly1234): *Drones fly around with equipment to build*
[21:27] Bly (bly1234): *is walking*
[21:27] Bly (bly1234): *in Gov Square*
[21:27] Bly (bly1234): Supreme Minister, we're progressing nicely.
[21:27] Bly (bly1234): Pavan: Indeed sir.
[21:27] Bly (bly1234): *Gara rushes forward*
[21:27] Bly (bly1234): Gara: BlyDonian Ships are exiting hyperspace.
[21:28] Heroi Krane (kris159): Emperor Kaiymo (Kadan): We shall become neutralist until a more decisive situation arises.
[21:28] Bly (bly1234): You say that like you're reading the weather.
[21:28] Bly (bly1234): *brb*
[21:29] Heroi Krane (kris159): ('just realized something)
[21:30] Heroi Krane (kris159): (Hydephiilo, Gammeta and Techia make up ~60% of the recorded population)
[21:30] Heroi Krane (kris159): (60.08)
[21:30] <Crusader Jackle (commanderfordo) (Moderator) has entered the room>
[21:32] Bly (bly1234): (Back)
[21:33] Bly (bly1234): *The BDN Prime of BlyDonia, Atlantis, Corsica, Cosmos, Furious, and BlyDonian Prime exit hyperspace*
[21:33] Bly (bly1234): *They hail the skeletal space station*
[21:34] Heroi Krane (kris159): (Wikia's down)
[21:34] Heroi Krane (kris159): (at least, the javascript is)
[21:34] Heroi Krane (kris159): (which means no editng and no rearranging buttons.
[21:34] Bly (bly1234): Admiral Alando: This is Admiral Alando, leader of this fleet.
[21:34] Bly (bly1234): Admiral Alando: We are defecting to join the Exile Government, effective immediately.
[21:34] Bly (bly1234): This is good news, Admiral.
[21:35] Heroi Krane (kris159): (ooh, from where?!)
[21:35] Bly (bly1234): (Fleet page updated7*
[21:35] Bly (bly1234): (They're from BlyDonia)
[21:35] Bly (bly1234): Bly (bly1234): *The BDN Prime of BlyDonia, Atlantis, Corsica, Cosmos, Furious, and BlyDonian Prime exit hyperspace*
[21:36] Bly (bly1234): *Can edit*
[21:36] Heroi Krane (kris159): (It's just me, then!)
[21:36] Bly (bly1234): *The Pride of BlyDonia comes into the atmosphere*
[21:37] Bly (bly1234): *It hovers a few hundred feet from Salaskia City*
[21:37] Heroi Krane (kris159): (Hey, my edit section links have gone after they returned without my command)
[21:37] Bly (bly1234): *A shuttle departs*
[21:37] Bly (bly1234): *Admiral Alando lands*
[21:37] Bly (bly1234): Welcome Admiral. I am glad you could join us.
[21:37] Bly (bly1234): Alando: We are aware that we are heading to war. These are the only ships that would defect.
[21:38] Bly (bly1234): Alando: The others, though loyal to you, intend to follow the Governments orders.
[21:38] Bly (bly1234): Alando: The people aren't against you. They'd welcome you back if you would change your policies.
[21:38] Bly (bly1234): I cannot allow us to be drawn into war.
[21:38] Bly (bly1234): It shall not occur.
[21:39] Bly (bly1234): We shall sit on the sidelines, and when BlyDonia is on her last legs, we'll take it back.
[21:39] Bly (bly1234): For now, we must focus on this construction.
[21:39] Bly (bly1234): Alando: We brought stuff.
[21:39] Bly (bly1234): GOod.
[21:39] Heroi Krane (kris159): (lol!)
[21:39] Heroi Krane (kris159): ("stuff")
[21:40] Heroi Krane (kris159): (ok)
[21:40] Heroi Krane (kris159): ('bit of a mouthful.)
[21:40] Bly (bly1234): (*tongue falls out of mouth*)
[21:40] <Bly (bly1234) has left the room>
[21:40] Heroi Krane (kris159): (oh, there--)
[21:40] Crusader Jackle (commanderfordo): ...
[21:40] <Crusader Jackle (commanderfordo) has left the room>

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